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Rather than requiring the user to pass FundingTxInputs when initiating a splice, generate a FundingNeeded event once the channel has become quiescent. This simplifies error handling and UTXO / change address clean-up by consolidating it in SpliceFailed event handling.

Later, this event will be used for opportunistic contributions (i.e., when the counterparty wins quiescence or initiates), dual-funding, and RBF.

Based on #4261.

This is still fairly rough. It does not yet include any code for creating a FundingNegotiationContext from a FundingContribution. The former may need to a dedicated struct instead so that any data needed from ChannelManager or ChannelContext can be produced internally. Alternatively, that data could be included in FundingContribution, but it would need to be serializable.

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@TheBlueMatt @wpaulino Looking for some high-level feedback on the API introduced in the last commit. In summary:

  • User passes SpliceContribution -- which no longer contains any FundingTxInputs -- to ChannelManager::splice_channel
  • Upon quiescence LDK generates a FundingNeeded event which contains a FundingTemplate
  • User calls FundingTemplate::build or FundingTemplate::build_sync with a WalletSource or WalletSourceSync, respectively, to produce a FundingContribution
  • User passes FundingContribution -- which contains the FundingTxInputs -- to ChannelManager::funding_contributed
  • LDK validates that the FundingContribution can pay for inputs / outputs, causing LDK to either send splice_init or produce a SpliceFailed event.

The same mechanism can be used later for contributing inputs for counterparty-initiated splices or v2 channel opens since FundingTemplate and FundingContribution contains the context.

Test code still needs to be fixed up, and change_script generation will follow in another commit.

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The API design LGTM, though there's one issue with WalletSource. One thing users need to keep in mind now is that from the moment they receive FundingNeeded, they need to act quickly to ensure the counterparty doesn't disconnect due to quiescence taking too long.

fn list_confirmed_utxos(&self) -> Result<Vec<Utxo>, ()>;

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Adding this here now requires implementers to satisfy this method when, in the context of anchor channels, WalletSource is only intended to be used such that we perform coin selection on behalf of the user. Ideally, we also give users the option between choosing WalletSource/CoinSelectionSource when funding channels.

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Right, I guess I'm a bit confused why we can't use select_confirmed_utxos as-is? Indeed the claim_id is annoying, but we can make that either an enum across a ClaimId and some unit value describing a splice or just make it an Option. Aside from that it seems to be basically what we want.

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Adding this here now requires implementers to satisfy this method when, in the context of anchor channels, WalletSource is only intended to be used such that we perform coin selection on behalf of the user. Ideally, we also give users the option between choosing WalletSource/CoinSelectionSource when funding channels.

Hmm... I see. Would a separate trait be desirable? Also, see my reply to @TheBlueMatt below.

Right, I guess I'm a bit confused why we can't use select_confirmed_utxos as-is? Indeed the claim_id is annoying, but we can make that either an enum across a ClaimId and some unit value describing a splice or just make it an Option. Aside from that it seems to be basically what we want.

The return value also isn't compatible. It contains Utxos but we also need the previous tx and sequence number as part of each FundingTxInput. Though its constructor will give a default sequence number.

We could change CoinSelection to use FundingTxInput instead of Utxo, but that would be odd for use with the anchor context.

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Honestly that seems fine to me? We expect ~all of our users to want to use splicing, which implies they need to support the "return coin selection with full transactions" interface. So what if anchors throw away some of that data?

If we feel strongly about it we can add a new trait method that does return the full transactions and provide a default implementation for the current method so that those that really want to avoid always fetching the transaction data can.

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Right, I don't have a strong opinion, but note that Wallet's implementation of CoinSelectionSource::select_confirmed_utxos delegates to WalletSource::list_confirmed_utxos. So it might be expensive to use that abstraction. @wpaulino WDYT?

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I was thinking of keeping CoinSelectionSource the same (with the full transaction data in the response, or with the default-impl-method described above) but changing WalletSource so that we don't have to fetch all previous-transactions at the start.

Yeah, Wallet wraps a WalletSource and implements CoinSelectionSource by listing all the UTXOs and selecting from them. So WalletSource's interface would remain unchanged while CoinSelection would use FundingTxInput instead of Utxo. Which I guess means FundingTemplate::build should actually take a CoinSelectionSource.

Seems reasonable to require a sequence number in the response for that as well, even for anchors?

Hmm... in WalletSource::list_confirmed_utxos by adding a field to Utxto (and removing it from FundingTxInput)? Or by having the CoinSelectionSource implementation fill it in on FundingTxInput?

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So WalletSource's interface would remain unchanged

Wouldn't we need a WalletSource::get_previous_transaction_for_utxo method to fetch the full tx data for the UTXOs we selected?

Hmm... in WalletSource::list_confirmed_utxos by adding a field to Utxto (and removing it from FundingTxInput)? Or by having the CoinSelectionSource implementation fill it in on FundingTxInput?

ISTM we should replace Utxo with FundingTxInput since FundingTxInput has strictly more fields (it contains a Utxo!) and we'd move to returning FundingTxInput from the trait.

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Wouldn't we need a WalletSource::get_previous_transaction_for_utxo method to fetch the full tx data for the UTXOs we selected?

Right, we need another method for that.

ISTM we should replace Utxo with FundingTxInput since FundingTxInput has strictly more fields (it contains a Utxo!) and we'd move to returning FundingTxInput from the trait.

The question is more what should be setting Sequence? Either:

(1) Move it to Utxo and have WalletSource::list_confirmed_utxos set it since it returns Vec<Utxo>.
(2) Have CoinSelectionSource::select_confirmed_utxos set it since CoinSelection would now contain Vec<FundingTxInput>

We just can't replace Utxo with FundingTxInput in WalletSource::list_confirmed_utxos since we don't want to return the previous tx there.

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(1) Move it to Utxo and have WalletSource::list_confirmed_utxos set it since it returns Vec.

Presumably this. No reason to want it to not be possible in WalletSource.

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Done as discussed here and offline. I'm in the middle of updating the tests, but I've pushed an update for now.

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Aside from the above which-interface question I think the API is good.

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A forthcoming commit will change CoinSelection to include FundingTxInput
instead of Utxo, though the former will probably be renamed. This is so
CoinSelectionSource can be used when funding a splice. Further updating
WalletSource to use FundingTxInput is not desirable, however, as it
would result in looking up each confirmed UTXOs previous transaction
even if it is not selected. See Wallet's implementation of
CoinSelectionSource, which delegates to WalletSource for listing all
confirmed UTXOs.

This commit moves FundingTxInput::sequence to Utxo, and thus the
responsibility for setting it to WalletSource implementations. Doing so
will allow Wallet's CoinSelectionSource implementation to delegate
looking up previous transactions to WalletSource without having to
explicitly set the sequence on any FundingTxInput.
In order to reuse CoinSelectionSource for splicing, the previous
transaction of each UTXO is needed. Update CoinSelection to use
FundingTxInput (renamed to ConfirmedUtxo) so that it is available.

This requires adding a method to WalletSource to look up a previous
transaction for a UTXO. Otherwise, Wallet's implementation of
CoinSelectionSource would need WalletSource to include the previous
transactions when listing confirmed UTXOs to select from. But this would
be inefficient since only some UTXOs are selected.
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// FIXME: Should claim_id be an Option?
let claim_id = ClaimId([0; 32]);
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Regarding the CoinSelectionSource API, do we want to make claim_id an Option?

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IMO yes

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Seems select_confirmed_utxos_internal might be off on the change calculation because it's using the weight of the change output to compute additional fees instead of re-computing the total fees using the total weight when including a change output.

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Rather than requiring the user to pass FundingTxInputs when initiating a
splice, generate a FundingNeeded event once the channel has become
quiescent. This simplifies error handling and UTXO / change address
clean-up by consolidating it in SpliceFailed event handling.

Later, this event will be used for opportunistic contributions (i.e.,
when the counterparty wins quiescence or initiates), dual-funding, and
RBF.
Now that CoinSelection is used to fund a splice funding transaction, use
that for determining of a change output should be used. Previously, the
initiator could either provide a change script upfront or let LDK
generate one using SignerProvider::get_destination_script.

Since older versions may have serialized a SpliceInstruction without a
change script while waiting on quiescence, LDK must still generate a
change output in this case.
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API looks good. some misc comments i noted while skimming it

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/// An unspent transaction output with at least one confirmation.
pub type ConfirmedUtxo = FundingTxInput;
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lets not rename types with aliases. If we are making a type more general lets rename the type itself.

/// Indicates that funding is needed for a channel splice or a dual-funded channel open.
///
/// The client should build a [`FundingContribution`] from the provided [`FundingTemplate`] and
/// pass it to [`ChannelManager::funding_contributed`].
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Needs a call-out to what to do if you actually don't want to splice anymore (ie on failure)

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Also maybe a note that the channel is hung waiting on our response, so we need to respond quickly.

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// FIXME: Should claim_id be an Option?
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/// Creates a `FundingContribution` from the template by using `wallet` to perform coin
/// selection with the given fee rate.
pub fn build_sync<W: Deref>(
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Can we also have a method for building with a provided set of inputs rather than going through the trait?

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spurious diff?

if self.context.channel_state.is_quiescent() {
return Err(APIError::APIMisuseError {
err: format!(
"Channel {} cannot be spliced as it is already quiescent",
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Don't we want to support queuing up the splice to do afterwards?

) -> Result<msgs::SpliceInit, SpliceFundingFailed>
where
L::Target: Logger,
{
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presumably we need to check that we're quiescent and its our turn to talk?

impl_writeable_tlv_based_enum_upgradable!(QuiescentAction,
(0, DoNothing) => {},
{1, Splice} => (),
{1, LegacySplice} => (),
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Needs docs on when we switched so we know when to remove it

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