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==== Attendees

. link:https://x.com/smilearthur_07[Abhinav Singh^]
. link:https://x.com/Alpastx[Alpesh Bhagwatkar^]
. link:https://twitter.com/bhavesh878789[Bhavesh Kukreja^]
. link:https://twitter.com/SirusTweets[Darshan Rander^]
. link:https://x.com/urmilsaini[GAMILTRON^]
. link:https://twitter.com/furtado_jaden[Jaden Furtado^]
. link:https://twitter.com/KartikSoneji_[Kartik Soneji^]
. link:https://twitter.com/PranavDani3[Pranav Dani^]
. link:https://twitter.com/ambitions2003[Siddharth Kaduskar^]
. Abhi
. Chinmay Pandey
. Janvi Matani
. Kunal sawant
. Kushagra Mehta
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Date: 22-08-2026

Duration: 1 hr 59 mins

==== Topics Discussed

* Alpesh Bhagwatkar advised GAMILTRON on what to do after a cybersecurity course.
** He recommended mixing attacker and defender work, including uploading a malicious file and watching the SOC alerts it raises, as a path toward purple teaming.
** He suggested finishing relevant link:https://tryhackme.com[TryHackMe^] paths, then moving to link:https://www.hackthebox.com[Hack The Box^] if budget allows.
** The group noted that HRs often recognize link:https://www.offsec.com/courses/pen-200[OSCP^], OSCE, and CEH, while some startups also look at Hack The Box certs such as CJCA.
** Alpesh said certs help, but they do not guarantee an internship, and some Hack The Box courses are several years old.
* GAMILTRON asked whether to keep learning full-stack development alongside cybersecurity.
** Alpesh and Kartik Soneji warned that it is easy to burn out, and suggested keeping the load moderate.
* GAMILTRON described getting stuck on link:https://nodejs.org[Node.js^] backends, especially async functions and promises.
** Alpesh suggested starting with simpler syntax and learning by writing more code.
** Kartik argued that if you do not understand the code you ship, especially with AI, you are guessing at the output. He said you are responsible for what you commit.
* Alpesh suggested contributing to open-source security tools used on Kali, such as link:https://www.metasploit.com[Metasploit^] and link:https://github.com/projectdiscovery/nuclei[Nuclei^], by fixing issues or submitting scripts that follow each project's contribution guide.
* Siddharth Kaduskar asked how cybersecurity people profile system behavior, not users.
** He used a link:https://react.dev[React^] to-do app as an example: API calls, UI updates, and what happens when more than one person edits the same list.
** He wanted to infer that behavior from interaction and traces, without having the source or the running internals on a platter.
** Alpesh first answered from a vulnerability-hunting view: map data flow, then look at sinks such as file includes and file reads, and check whether input is sanitized.
** Siddharth clarified he wanted the mechanic or doctor view first: understand how the system works, not jump straight to exploitation.
* The group discussed fingerprinting a site's technology stack from the outside.
** Alpesh pointed to Web Analyzer-style browser plugins that detect frameworks and versions from JavaScript, HTML, CSS, and asset hashes.
** Kartik noted that a default link:https://vercel.com[Vercel^] favicon can suggest link:https://nextjs.org[Next.js^], and that favicon hashes can even differ by version.
** Darshan Rander said link:https://mui.com[Material UI^] is often obvious from CSS class names, and that a favicon is only one signal. It cannot prove every dependency on its own.
** They also mentioned user fingerprinting via cached favicons and response latency.
* Siddharth narrowed the profiling question to AI orchestration, not the model itself.
** Examples included Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG) and cache-augmented generation, plus how a system fetches embeddings from a vector database.
** Jaden distinguished monitoring the model from monitoring the whole system, and treated observability as the starting point.
** Siddharth said a raw KPI such as token count is useless without a baseline. 102k tokens may be normal if the system usually uses 100k, and wrong if it usually uses far less.
** Jaden walked through agent-based log collection with link:https://wazuh.com[Wazuh^], a log ingester, and alert rules. Siddharth compared that to link:https://azure.microsoft.com/products/monitor[Azure Monitor^], log analytics, link:https://opentelemetry.io[OpenTelemetry^], and link:https://www.elastic.co[Elastic^].
** Kartik framed baseline checks as hypothesis testing: how likely is a new sample to belong to the known distribution. He said Bayesian models can lag when load changes unless old readings are dropped.
* Kartik and Siddharth discussed anomaly detection for non-deterministic AI output.
** Siddharth described a "wobble" band: same input, slightly different output, measured over many runs with a significance threshold.
** He asked for the same idea on ordinary software, not only LLM systems.
** Kartik recommended spectral fault analysis: use test cases, intermediate values, and execution paths to locate the part of the code that is failing.
** Siddharth said this is close to agent-eval frameworks that treat a workflow as a black-box graph.
* Alpesh and Jaden discussed delayed responses after reporting bugs in open-source software.
** Alpesh reported remote code execution through argument injection, with no input validation, and a privilege-escalation issue that let a developer become an owner if they knew a project ID.
** Jaden described an older server-side request forgery (SSRF) that was not patched correctly, and said he would disclose it if there was still no reply after three months.
* Alpesh asked whether his custom AI harness for cybersecurity could become a research project or paper.
** The idea is to replay vulnerabilities he has already found, using cheaper abliterated models, and see how many issues the harness can rediscover.
** Jaden is presenting related work at link:https://www.blackhat.com[Black Hat^] in October, including injecting an architectural backdoor into a model.
** For research beyond LLMs, Jaden suggested model guardrails, explainable AI, attacking models on embedded and IoT devices, and hardware security.
** He also said industry talks at Black Hat and link:https://defcon.org[DEF CON^], given often enough, can carry as much weight as papers for some paths.
* Alpesh gave an update on a hardware security event.
** It includes a hardware CTF, hardware badges for the top three winners, and a student fireside chat with CISOs.
** Challenge work was handed to Rohit of Nexa Craft, who is taking a longer-term CTO-style role for the recurring event.
* Kartik, Jaden, and Alpesh discussed government-related penetration-test work and empanelment.
** Jaden said many such contracts cap pay, that empanelment often tests process more than technical skill, and that some vendors compete on volume (around 30 tests a month) rather than quality.
** He argued a careful test of even a simple app can take about 15 days. He named Paya2 and Globals as vendors he still considers strong.
** Kartik suggested sending a proposal on their own terms, even at a high price, so the bid still creates introductions and later options.
* Siddharth and Alpesh talked about master's programs versus a research career.
** Siddharth said a short master's is a weak research path, and that work under a productive professor matters more than the university brand.
** Alpesh said his main goal is a strong university abroad, not necessarily a research career. Siddharth then advised focusing on admissions rather than papers if relocation and a job are the aim.
** Alpesh also described cybersecurity as an aggregation of fields, not a narrow specialty. You often need development knowledge, and topics such as side-channel attacks need hardware and circuit-level understanding.
* Alpesh mentioned using Twitter to follow people who are shipping work, rather than posting, as a way to stay current on new models and tools.
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