Do Yii3 would provide SPA turn key solutions?

[ScottHuangZL]

Hi Yii Team,

I really like Yii1/2 which is enable people to build traditional web application easily and robust.
We have plenty of widgets (or Kartik extensions) which were well designed and can use out of box.

SPA is more and more popular in these days. There are different approaches by different framework, such as .Net use Blazor.
Or GoLang use REST+Frontend, or some people create "gin-vue-admin" to try auto generate code to easy the developments. (Some kind like Yii Gii).

The strength of Yii framework is help user to both write frontend & backend code at same framework with high productivity, the feeling is good. Or else, if we have to split as 2 set, then people have lots of other choices, such as use Go/.Net/Java for backend, and Vue(Quasar framework look good)/React/Angular for frontend. As you know PHP speed is slow from backend perspective, the conveniences are the most attracting features.

Do Yii3 plan provide SPA turn key solutions? Such as leverage Vue or React or jQuery/AJAX or whatever to enable users build single page application easily just like before we build traditional web with widgets?

Thanks for your consideration and support in advance.

Regards,
Scott Huang

[samdark]

Do Yii3 plan provide SPA turn key solutions?

There's a possibility but right now we focus on the backend. After it's more or less released we'll see what we can do.

Overall I tend to either build PHP-only HTML-generating traditional apps or APIs consumed by client-side projects. Both these cases are more or less covered right now:

• https://github.com/yiisoft/app - uses widgets and Bulma CSS framework.
• https://github.com/yiisoft/app-api - uses streamlined content serialization based on content type, provides token auth and has OpenAPI documentation framework integrated.

[ScottHuangZL]

Thanks for update, let's wait and see, thanks.

[garrettw]

I would like to see this as well. Specifically, I think having a first-party package to add backend support for Inertia.js would give Yii3 an incredible leg up and, let's be honest, Laravel is the elephant 😉 in the room and supporting the same stuff it does is basically necessary to be considered a contender these days.

I've been doing some development in recent months on an app using Laravel + Inertia + React + TypeScript (having no experience with any of those except Laravel starting out), and it's been pretty fun to learn. I would love to be able to build React/Vue apps with Yii3! (Granted, in addition to the supporting library, an app template would honestly be needed as well.)

(On that note, I think Yii also needs to be able to basically copy the ideas of Sail, Breeze, and Jetstream in its own way.)

[ScottHuangZL]

One Python framework NiceGUI leverage FastAPI + Quasar(Based on Vue3), that NiceGUI try to have a thread to looping backend and do some dirty and quick "SPA", this portion need improved as react style if possile. But in short, it still ramp up quickly and eat some markting place from Streamlet and so on. Appreciate Yii3 able develop similar "SPA" functions ASAP. And to be frankly, I still not use Yii3, do it ready now?? Thanks.

Btw, dotnet C# Blazor looking nice. But it is too challenge for Yii3 if try mimic Blazor :)

[samdark]

We don't have any backend looping and actually do not plan to. There were numerous frameworks like that in the past, and there are too many now with different approaches. That means:

1. Choosing one, we'll likely stick to it. That would be the same story as Yii2 and jQuery (the only popular approach back then) i.e. frontend may (and likely will) move to another direction, and we'll have to maintain a solution that's not the top-notch anymore.
2. Yii is meant to cover backend needs with some exceptions: server-side content generation such as https://github.com/yiisoft/yii-bootstrap5 and other very lightweight integrations with frontend stuff. Overall, we don't want to go into frontend. We're not experts there.

[ScottHuangZL]

Thank you @samdark for your clarification.