diff --git a/compiler/pexpr.pas b/compiler/pexpr.pas
index d689acc12ce..ab6178e08ed 100644
--- a/compiler/pexpr.pas
+++ b/compiler/pexpr.pas
@@ -4395,7 +4395,9 @@                       if srsymtable.symtabletype=recordsymtable then
                   (sp_generic_dummy in srsym.symoptions) and
                   (current_scanner.token in [_LT,_LSHARPBRACKET]) then
                 begin
-                  result:=cspecializenode.create(nil,getaddr,srsym,unit_found)
+                  if not is_member_read(srsym,srsymtable,result,hdef) then
+                    result:=nil;
+                  result:=cspecializenode.create(result,getaddr,srsym,unit_found)
                 end
               { check if it's a method/class method }
               else if is_member_read(srsym,srsymtable,result,hdef) then
diff --git a/tests/webtbs/tw41711.pp b/tests/webtbs/tw41711.pp
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..95ee0ef5d3b
--- /dev/null
+++ b/tests/webtbs/tw41711.pp
@@ -0,0 +1,138 @@
+program tw41711;
+
+{$mode delphi}
+
+type
+  TTarget = class
+    procedure CheckPlain;
+    procedure CheckGeneric<T>;
+    destructor Destroy; override;
+  end;
+
+  TOuter = class
+    procedure Invoke;
+  end;
+
+  TValue = record
+    Number: LongInt;
+    procedure SetPlain(AValue: LongInt);
+    procedure SetGeneric<T>(AValue: LongInt);
+  end;
+
+var
+  Expected: TTarget;
+  Phase: LongInt;
+  ExplicitGenericMatches: LongInt;
+  WithVariableMatches: LongInt;
+  WithExpressionMatches: LongInt;
+  PlainWithMatches: LongInt;
+  WrongMatches: LongInt;
+  DestroyedTargets: LongInt;
+
+procedure TTarget.CheckPlain;
+begin
+  if Pointer(Self) = Pointer(Expected) then
+    Inc(PlainWithMatches)
+  else
+    Inc(WrongMatches);
+end;
+
+procedure TTarget.CheckGeneric<T>;
+begin
+  if Pointer(Self) <> Pointer(Expected) then
+    begin
+      Inc(WrongMatches);
+      Exit;
+    end;
+  case Phase of
+    1: Inc(ExplicitGenericMatches);
+    2: Inc(WithVariableMatches);
+    3: Inc(WithExpressionMatches);
+  else
+    Inc(WrongMatches);
+  end;
+end;
+
+procedure TValue.SetPlain(AValue: LongInt);
+begin
+  Self.Number := AValue;
+end;
+
+procedure TValue.SetGeneric<T>(AValue: LongInt);
+begin
+  Self.Number := AValue + SizeOf(T);
+end;
+
+destructor TTarget.Destroy;
+begin
+  Inc(DestroyedTargets);
+  inherited;
+end;
+
+function MakeTarget: TTarget;
+begin
+  Result := TTarget.Create;
+  Expected := Result;
+end;
+
+procedure TOuter.Invoke;
+var
+  Target: TTarget;
+begin
+  Target := TTarget.Create;
+  try
+    Expected := Target;
+    Phase := 1;
+    Target.CheckGeneric<LongInt>;
+    Phase := 2;
+    with Target do
+      CheckGeneric<LongInt>;
+    with Target do
+      CheckPlain;
+  finally
+    Target.Free;
+  end;
+
+  Phase := 3;
+  with MakeTarget do
+    begin
+      CheckGeneric<LongInt>;
+      Free;
+    end;
+end;
+
+var
+  Outer: TOuter;
+  Value: TValue;
+begin
+  Value.SetGeneric<Word>(20);
+  if Value.Number <> 22 then
+    Halt(7);
+  with Value do
+    SetGeneric<Byte>(10);
+  if Value.Number <> 11 then
+    Halt(8);
+  with Value do
+    SetPlain(30);
+  if Value.Number <> 30 then
+    Halt(9);
+
+  Outer := TOuter.Create;
+  try
+    Outer.Invoke;
+  finally
+    Outer.Free;
+  end;
+  if ExplicitGenericMatches <> 1 then
+    Halt(1);
+  if WithVariableMatches <> 1 then
+    Halt(2);
+  if WithExpressionMatches <> 1 then
+    Halt(3);
+  if PlainWithMatches <> 1 then
+    Halt(4);
+  if WrongMatches <> 0 then
+    Halt(5);
+  if DestroyedTargets <> 2 then
+    Halt(6);
+end.
diff --git a/tests/webtbs/tw41712.pp b/tests/webtbs/tw41712.pp
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..6bfacdc766e
--- /dev/null
+++ b/tests/webtbs/tw41712.pp
@@ -0,0 +1,33 @@
+program tw41712;
+
+{$mode delphi}
+
+type
+  TTarget = class
+    procedure CheckGeneric<T>;
+  end;
+
+var
+  Expected: TTarget;
+  Matches: LongInt;
+
+procedure TTarget.CheckGeneric<T>;
+begin
+  if Pointer(Self) = Pointer(Expected) then
+    Inc(Matches);
+end;
+
+var
+  Instance: TTarget;
+begin
+  Instance := TTarget.Create;
+  try
+    Expected := Instance;
+    with Instance do
+      CheckGeneric<TObject>;
+    if Matches <> 1 then
+      Halt(1);
+  finally
+    Instance.Free;
+  end;
+end.